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MASTERbation
Sex and Relationships
Published by Dr. Ty Thursday, January 15, 2009 at 10:03 pm

masterbationYes, I said it, in fact, I'll say it again, MASTURBATION! I figure if a few thousand of the millions here on Myspace can expose their breast, proposition you for sex, have degrading music, and nakedness can have the audacity to request me as a friend , then I can say MASTURBATION and tell the truth about it! And given that many of you are doing it or have, let's talk about it. Since the majority of us have at least a 3rd grade education, I'll begin by defining what it is.

Masturbation: the excitation or erotic stimulation of one's own or another's genitals to achieve an orgasm by practices other than coitus/sexual intercourse, by instrumental manipulation, usually manually, occasionally by sexual fantasies or by various combinations of these agencies. Self-gratification, autoeroticism, self-abuse. From the Latin word masturbatus and manstupare, meaning to stir up, to defile oneself, to dishonor, to stupefy.

I have heard it said by many, especially by "Christians", that masturbation is not sex and even if you don't have a third grade education, you can clearly see that masturbation is sex. But many like to use that as an excuse to do it so that they can get a little sex without going "all the way". But whether you have sexual intercourse or sexually manipulate your own genitals to achieve an orgasm, you are having sex. The reason why you masturbate is to achieve an orgasm. And an orgasm is the culmination, the climax of any sexual act, whether it's with a partner(s) or sex with yourself. And that's exactly what masturbation is, solo sex.

Okay, now that we agree that masturbation is sex, then what is wrong with it? I'm glad you asked. For those of you who don't believe in God or live for Him, then this is not for you. But for those of us who not only "believe" in Him, but have actually made Him to be Lord, the One Who governs our lives, then I think it would be only fitting that we investigate what He has to say about it. In order to do that we have to go to God's Space, especially for those of you who say that masturbation is not in the Bible.

"Is it a good thing to have sexual relations? Certainly-but only within a certain context. It's good for a man to have a wife, and for a woman to have a husband. Sexual drives are strong, but marriage is strong enough to contain them and provide for a balanced and fulfilling sexual life in a world of sexual disorder." *

Signed,

God

The Truth About Sex

You know what I love? The fact that God knows that sex is a good thing makes me want to stop typing and do a tap dance and a cartwheel! In fact, He's the One that created it! And it wasn't a mistake! He did it on purpose, as a gift for His children to enjoy! Imagine God before the foundation of the world, creating an orgasm?!!!!! My God, I feel a praise coming on!!! The sensation that many long to achieve was instituted, manufactured and conceived in the factory of God's mind. He knew the functionality of it, the mechanics of it, and the modus operandi. And God's method of operation for sex is marriage. He created the fibers of sex to be so strong that it could only be contained in the confines of marriage. What is marriage, that only It can contain the orgasm? Because only a contractual covenant can contain something so strong...Anything outside that method would self destruct. Any other orgasm achieved outside of marriage couldn't handle its intense, explosive, addictive, domineering, gripping force without repercussions. Yes, you could very well achieve and very much well, enjoy one, but not without suffering the impact of its climactic aftershocks. Yes, I just said it, Church! Yes, the tremors may feel good, but the aftermath, the consequences of an illegal orgasm is traumatic. You can reach the heights of sexual stimulation during masturbation, but can you handle its control over your life?

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Masturbation is what I'd like to call, tormenting pleasure. The three second blissful orgasm achieved by masturbation is just as much tormenting as it is pleasurable. Because God never created solo sex. Masturbation often promises the pleasure but can never fulfill your inward void. And the many people that it has imprisoned by its non~threatening lure to satisfy your sexual desires, come to find that the trap is not worth the 3 seconds it took to get it. Trust me, I've been there, and I'd rather have cold, dry sheets than to fondle my self. Two things I've come to know about masturbation is this:

1. It brings shame, and...
2. It is addictive

Most people who have engaged in masturbation know that the culmination of this sexual act ends in shame. I don't have to share with you the thousands of emails of the admittance of this shame because you know all too well since you have experienced it yourself. Curled up in a fetal position, crying, because your bed is even more empty and you're lonelier than you did before you violated yourself...Because God never created sex so that you could gratify yourself. The dictionary defined masturbation as self abuse...the miss use of yourself. The mistreatment, the manipulation, the exploitation of YOU.

Self abuse from the 1605 Etymology dictionary says that it is self-deception, a synonym for masturbation or self pollution. The American Heritage Stedman's Medical Dictionary says it is the abuse of oneself or one's abilities.

And if that's not already agonizing, it's a never ending cycle that you habitually become dependant upon, like a drug. And like any other drug, you can never achieve the high you're looking for...Because MASTERbation will MASTER you! You enter into a contractual agreement with it and it will govern your life sexually. It will rule and control your life...it taps you on the shoulder 3 o'clock in the morning even when you don't want it. You want to stop but you can't. You cry, you repent and say you won't do it any more but you find yourself molesting yourself again...When will it ever end? I'm here to tell you that cold showers don't work and saying you won't do it anymore won't either. Because masturbation has become your MASTER. Its appetite is ferocious and it will not end until it dominates. It will live up to its definition and leave you stupefied! Its three second ecstasy will put you in a stupor and numb your faculties, your senses and sensibility...Your receptivity and emotional response. It will control your intellect, your reasoning, your judgment of things, and your own significance and leave you trapped in a mind full of warped sexual fantasies. It will overpower you, subdue and suppress you, hold you back, paralyze your forward movement and hinder you from walking in what God has for you. Is having sex with yourself even worth it?

I didn't think so...the only way to come out of the chains of masturbation is to dethrone its power by allowing God to become the MASTER over your sexual drive and appetites. In my book, Single, Saved, and Having Sex, I share with you the effective tools to finally master and conquer the addictive influence of masturbation. Your emails, prayer requests and cry for help over the last several weeks has captured God's attention . Because of that, I am offering my book not only at a deeply discounted price but I will autograph it and ship it to you the same day you order it. Because the torment of masturbation leaves your life TODAY! You will no longer have to be controlled by masturbation because you will now finally MASTER it!

If you are struggling with masturbation, it's time for you to get free! Log on my site today, I want to help you!

Romans 8:37

Dr. Ty

Books recommended by Nina Del of DaSouth.com

  • Kissed The Girls And Make Them Cry by Lisa Bevere (targeted towards females and it focuses on wholeness, purity and healing.)
  • Soul Virgins by Doug Rosenau and Michael Todd Wilson (for men and woman from two Christian sex therapists...one single and a virgin, the other married)
  • Redeeming Love by Francine Rivers (a novel on the book of HOSEA in the form of a story based in Western times...bangin portrayal of God's heart for his people and how unfaithful we are...a beautiful story of wholeness, forgiveness)
  • Sex Is Not The Problem, Lust Is by Joshua Harris (easy read for men and woman on the issue of lust and the beauty of sex)
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JAKE
self abuse #2
written by JAKE, December 20, 2009
Think I know why this subject wasnt put in the bible, is because back when the bible was written people didnt speak of such thing, because then if you were cought doing some thing like this you would have been stone to death..also god does say something and really quite a bit on it.one scripture say that sex out side the marrage is sin,so to abuse ones body is to abuse Gods temple.because we are the temple of the Holy Sprit.and thats where the sin lies.

just my oppenion

JAKE
seflabuse
written by JAKE, December 20, 2009
You know I'm so glade I came across this info.i have been masterbating for 43 yrs...And i can say that this has controlled my life..I have prayed and prayed for God to deliver me from this.I have look althrough the bible to find where it state it is a sin,And have only found one thing that comes close.i do not remeber the ex scripture but it read who ever harms this temp he will i harm.We are that temp...from my experinces and thought on this.this is just anothier habit just like drugs,overeating,smokeing,this has taken controll so much that even in my sleep it comes up...
Now I'm woundering if it has some thing todo with me being molisted when i was 4 yrs old...I have started to track it, and I m********e when i'm depressed,upset about something it come in...we all know the shame we feel after we m********e.and I do not know about the rest of you, but I hate this.i hate the way I feel,I hear these voice saying see God doesnt care are he would help you stop it...I have been suicidal because of this..
it is a fight.and the only way i know of killing it out is to flat not do it...which is hard becasue our minds our subcon wants that 3 sec satisfacton.which really is not a satisfaction at all.but torment.
So its just like any other habit...
Charles Emmanuel
THE Rabbi Was Against Masturbation, FOR CERTAIN
written by Charles Emmanuel, December 09, 2009
I'm not unlike many of you on here. I'm a man and struggle with this issue now and then. There was a time where it was a real problem for me. So, having a moment here where I'm being tempted, I decided to reach out to you and help you instead. I'm going to let you in on an important lesson I've learned. I've been strengthened by learning the Truth, and may the Truth set you free as well.

In my own search for the Truth, I came across many an "Christian" article saying 'Masturbation is okay; better, for example, that than all kinds of other trouble you can be getting into.' I bought it for a while after coming to the LORD, yet still couldn't escape a nagging feeling that this thing is definitely wrong, even if I say "Thanks be to God for masturbation." It's still wrong.

Eventually, the evidence came together. Sometimes, probably more often than you may realize, to properly understand what the Bible is saying, you need to consider the Jewish perspective on a matter so that you understand the context of what's being said.

After all, Jesus did say in Matthew 23:2-3:

" 2 Saying The scribes and the Pharisees sit in Moses' seat:

3 All therefore whatsoever they bid you observe, that observe and do; but do not ye after their works: for they say, and do not "

That, in itself, may be news to you, I'm well-aware. Anyway, follow me on this:

1. "Jewish law clearly prohibits male masturbation. This law is derived from the story of Onan (Gen. 38:8-10), who practiced coitus interruptus as a means of birth control to avoid fathering a child for his deceased brother. G-d killed Onan for this sin. Although Onan's act was not truly masturbation, Jewish law takes a very broad view of the acts prohibited by this passage, and forbids any act of ha-sh'cha'tat zerah (destruction of the seed), that is, ejaculation outside of the v****a. In fact, the prohibition is so strict that one passage in the Talmud states, "in the case of a man, the hand that reaches below the navel should be chopped off." (Niddah 13a)"
(http://www.jewfaq.org/sex.htm)

2. Now, with that quote from Jewish "Halacha" in mind, follow the progression below as we read what Jesus, "THE Rabbi", says in Matthew 5:

" 27 Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery:

28 But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

29 And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.

30 And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell. "

He's talking about sexual impropriety. Notice the progression. It's all related. He starts with Adultery. He says even looking at that woman with lust in your heart is Adultery. If your eye causes you to sin, TAKE DRASTIC ACTION. If your RIGHT HAND causes you to sin, TAKE DRASTIC ACTION.

Back in the day, there was no open talk about Masturbation as today. This is as close as you'll find, and if you think about it, it's pretty straight forward.

3. Paul says something similar in 1 Corinthians 7:8-9:

" 8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, it is good for them if they abide even as I [alone].

9 But if they cannot [control themselves], let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn. "


This is indeed a serious issue, people. How sad it would/will be for so many well-intentioned men to be "cast into hell" as Jesus warns, and to "burn" as Paul writes, all because they're ignorant of this Truth.

May the LORD bless you in your honest, wholehearted search for the Truth.

Pass it on. smilies/wink.gif


Charles E.
www.MessiahWiki.com
Carrie
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written by Carrie, November 04, 2009
Well, first off, I would like to thank you for writing an article about this topic, because it's oh so sensitive and hush hush in the world, even though the majority of people masturbate.
I will confess that this article brought me such a feeling of relief, because I have been trapped by this sin ever since I was a child. I remember not understanding what it was when I was 7 or 8. All I knew was that it felt good. When I got older, I finally found out what it was and that it actually existed and had a name and I wasn't some freak. For awhile, I convinced myself that it wasn't a sin.
But, then I had to ask myself the question: if it wasn't a sin, why did I feel so guilty? God did not put humans here on earth without a guiding light..the human conscience is evidence that we are eternal beings, and the guilt that I felt showed me that something was up..everything was not hunky dory. Often times in bed, I would fall asleep to masturbation. Afterwards, however, I would feel a sinking feeling of despair and I knew I was in trouble. I also would read steamy romance novels, which did not help my mind or my bodies response to those descriptions.
In high school, I began attending a small group Bible study with wonderful girls who I felt extremely close to, but to whom I was never able to confess my sin. I was simply scared about being judged. We studied the topic of purity, which is a topic that has been on my heart for some time now. The study raised several issues for me: Outwardly, the world saw me as a virgin--a girl who'd never had a boyfriend or even been kissed. But, inwardly, I felt like I had completely taken away my OWN viriginity and sabatoged myself. My mind was a wasteland, and my relationships with guys began to suffer because I began having impure, lustful thoughts towards them as well. Masturbation does eventually affect every part of your spiritual life...try as you might, you can't compartmentalize with masturbation.
So, at that time, I entered a period of deep sadness..not outward sadness..in fact, outwardly, I was completey fine and happy. I was even known as a Jesus freak and a strong Christian. I continued to grow in my faith and I experienced periods of absolute joy in Christ. But, inside, I knew that everything was not completely ok with my relationship with Jesus because I had unconfessed sin that I was harboring in my heart. Eventually, I broke down and cried out to God, asking Him what to do. In my heart, I knew that He wanted me to confess aloud, but I immediately felt terrified at the prospect of saying the "m" word alout, much less confess that I struggled with it! smilies/smiley.gifIt got to the point where I saw myself becoming desensitized to it and my heart began to cry out, "Oh Lord, please help me not to become numb to this sin!!" By the grace of God, I finally understood that masturbation is an abomination in His sight, and I cried out for help.
This is the first time I have ever openly confessed to this struggle and it is so cathartic. To this moment, I'm still not sure if I am free from this sin, but I have learned several things. I know that Satan will lie to us in order to get us to think that we can conquer masturbation without outwardly confessing. This is a lie. I also understand that Satan wants us to feel completely lost and hopeless. But, remember, if you are a Christian, you serve the Almighty God of the Universe who created you and what Satan intends for evil, God intends for good.
Thanks for the article!
jonathan
For You
written by jonathan, September 30, 2009
YESSS! Here is a testimony for you! I was bound for 12 years to p**nography and m**********n, but God freed me and SAVED me! I thought I would never be free but here I stand Free! Go to http://www.youtube.com/user/holyjgospel7 and hear my testimony!
quon taylor
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written by quon taylor, September 30, 2009
Wow. This really ministered to me. I mean...it brought me to tears...I masterbating as a "lesser" form of sex. Now that I am engaged I think as the one young lady does that I will be punished for this addictive, sinful act! I feel that the sex will not be blessed. That has been on my mind for a while and I know that God is a healer. He blesses sex. He knows my heart. He knows what I want. I want my marriage and I want my wife to be blessed! I know God will take this fear away from me! In Him I put my trust! Pray for me. God is able! Thank you for this article and for just telling it as it should be told. I was most defineatly blessed and I KNOW THIS HAS CHANGED ME! I am sorry Lord for this sinful act please take it away and my fear. Thank you in advance!
Demi
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written by Demi, July 06, 2009
I have been thinking about this some more and have come to the conclusion that God wants the best for us. I’m still not sure how bad solo sex/masturbation really is, but I’m sure that directing our thoughts to God is better than dwelling on sexual thoughts or fulfilling sexual desires outside the context of marriage [Phil 4:8]

I don’t think it’s practical to just decide to quit something that your body craves - ultimately you’re gonna go back and do it. I did try that, but my conclusion to quit was not strong enough since I wasn’t convinced on how bad it was. I think the best way to stop is, when you feel the urge to have sex/masturbate, pray first but also actually get the Bible out and start reading Scripture or read a chapter from a Christian-living book or something that takes your mind off sex and centers it on Christ. Unless you take that active approach of actually replacing the desire with something else, then it can be too powerful to deny.

So this is the way I plan to move forward. I hope that I have a 100% success rate with this plan & God’s help. Time will tell. I’d still be interested in a response to my previous post since my I’m still unsure how bad solo sex/masturbation is - whether it’s as bad as sex with someone else outside of marriage (which I doubt because otherwise I think it would be specifically mentioned in the Bible) or if it’s not really bad - it’s just settling for less than the best. As well as doing the above, a more solid conviction on my stand would probably be helpful in saying ‘no’ when the time comes. However, I will be sticking to this forum rather than giving out personal info. Thanks for your prayers!
Demi
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written by Demi, July 05, 2009
I'm a single, 26 year old girl. I've never been with a man, believing it to be wrong to have sex before marriage.

I don't know why, but this last month my sexual desires have increased and I started masturbating. It felt good the first night and I have done it several times over this last month - enjoying it each time. I don't really feel shame afterwards, although questions arise in my mind as to whether it is right biblically.

For me as a girl, I can masturbate without lustful thoughts about another person. It's a case of taking a minute or two to satisfy my sexual tension and then get on with whatever it was I was doing before. (is it reasonable to compare it to a craving for chocolate and satisfying that craving?) I find that when I'm trying to reason through whether it's okay or not, I actually end up thinking about it a lot more than I would have done otherwise. So my thoughts are consumed with debating with myself and thinking about sex a lot more rather than taking a couple of minutes to satisfy the desire and then get on.

I know it is wrong to think lustfully about another person so I agree that there is no question that is sin. However, is it the same if all you're doing is satisfying a bodily urge/craving without thinking lustful thoughts? Kinda mechanical in a way I guess and I'm sure it's not as complete and satisfying as true sex with a partner, but since I want to keep myself for my husband, isn't this a legitimate way to satisfy my bodily desires/cravings without committing sin with another person?
Alexis H
good topic
written by Alexis H, June 01, 2009
thank you for postin this up..helps me out alot
Lamar
To Syl
written by Lamar , May 14, 2009
"We are all born with desires that, particularly in Christian belief systems, are not to be acknowledged - if at all - until marriage."

That kinda makes me sad, because I honestly don't know where you would read in the Bible that God doesn't acknowledge the feelings you feel? I don't know about the Christian friends you have, or the mindset about Christ that you have, but feelings are acknowledged by not only me, but the friends I have as well as writers of the Bible.

Do you mean acknowledged as in made known, or as in pursued? The fact of the matter is that we have feelings for alot of things. Sometimes the way people comment on here I can swear they feel like punching someone LOL. Other times people can "feel" down in the moment. It is what you do with the feelings that you come across in your life that is what's the most important to God. Jesus at the Garden of Gethsemane felt the weight of what He was going to do, but the Bible says for the joy set after the cross, He went forward. Feelings shouldn't be a judge of whether or not you should do something, or else agnostic or Buddhist, or atheist, we would all be in trouble. Just like we can abstain from impulses to act on thoughts of hurting someone, we can be confident to abstain from impulses that not only hurt us spiritually but hurt God as well.

Desires have been perverted by sin that has entered in the world, and we need to live as God intends for His people to live, so when sex was made for love, it has been turned to lust and satisfaction is sought whether by having sex before marriage, or involved in fetishes that they "feel" for, and masturbation.

No one seeks to discover themselves through masturbating, and it sounds noble, but honestly masturbation is for you to feel good, not to find yourself. You find yourself when you live in the light of Christ, because the light brings out into the open the darkness that's hidden and you begin to find out that you yourself need Jesus because we can never attain who God is, yet Jesus is our righteousness. I have not masturbated since I cast my burdens of my life on to Christ who says He cares for us, and His grace has been sufficient in me. I seek to also not think I have it made, or I will fall.

So I think that the importance you put on this is not that important in all honesty, for it is better to give than receive for Christ, who is Yahweh come in flesh, says that to watch for your brothers for their sake is more profitable than watching out only for your needs. Be blessed Syl!
Syl
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written by Syl, May 14, 2009
This article really made me sad. I'm not Christian (I'm agnostic) but I do have a number of strong Christian people in my life. Despite not believing in the same things as you, I like to think I understand the importance of your relationship with God and living a life in His honour. That being said, what makes me so sad about this article and the comments I read, is that such an important gift is being pushed aside. I think masturbation is a wonderful aspect of being human. We are all born with desires that, particularly in Christian belief systems, are not to be acknowledged - if at all - until marriage. What if marriage never comes? What are young people supposed to do while they wait to get married? I think there is no better or SAFER way to connect with and learn about yourself as a sexual being than masturbation. Instead of regarding it as a tool of sin, view this act as self-discovery. It breaks my heart to think that so many of you are suffering because you have urges to experience the pleasure and relief of your sexuality. These are emotions and desires that your God has placed within you. I just think it's incredibly unrealistic, inhumane, and painful to disallow such an important aspect of one's humanity.
Jane Does
I never thought about it as SEX.
written by Jane Does, May 09, 2009
Thank you so much for your article. I am a single girl who stopped having premarital sex for the Lord about eight years ago. I'm now 32. I've been struggling with masturbation ever since.

For those first years, I didn't think of masturbation as wrong. After all, I wasn't "doing it" anymore, so masturbation seemed like the obvious substitute. Then I tried masturbating without thinking lustful thoughts. For girls it's actually possible. Every week and sometimes more than that for years, I would do this. I would cry and ball up in shame afterward every time just like you wrote. I finally realized those tears were not what I thought they were.

I had told myself I was crying because I just wasn't over my ex. Right. (I never thought about him anymore yet would cry whenever I did this.) In fact, I wasn't crying because the act reminded me of my ex boyfriend or because I was lonely. Maybe that was part of it. But I was crying because I was ashamed. The shame of self abuse, of doing something I would be ashamed of if my parents knew, of doing something I would never do if Jesus was in the room.

A couple of years ago I finally began confessing masturbation as sin. I go on longer stretches of abstinence now. I've learned I can't watch ANY shows with subtle sex scenes. I try to fight. I get right out of bed instead of allowing myself to daydream. But the truth is, I'm failing.

Things are a bit improved, though. At least the urge comes less frequently now, but I have to confess that the reason I found this site and article in the first place is because I was Googling for help on the topic.

I was Googling for help because I just masturbated. God help me. I am confessing on the Internet.

It's even more shameful for a girl to struggle with this sin. And that is how I feel. Shamed.

In fact, and this may sound weird, but I am also struggling with the fear of the consequences I will face. In Isaiah we see the women are harlots and God causes all their hair to fall out. (I imagine their hearts were so turned from God in their harlotry that taking their hair was the only way to get their attention and get them to repent.) I found this verse because I noticed a couple of years ago that my hair was starting to fall out. Not by much but enough to get my attention -- thinner than it used to be. I don't know if this is punishment for my self abuse, for continuing to be mastered by this sin. But I do know that God will not be mocked. He disciplines those He loves. I don't know what the consequences of this sin are, but I am sure fearful of them.

And even despite of all of this, I still fall. Just tonight I fell, and that is how I found this article. I raced to the Internet to try to find a helpful article. I found a blog mocking this article, but it provided a link and I ended up here. An answer to prayer! God causes all things to work for the good of those who love Him. Indeed, if those mockers only knew God still got glory from their blogpost mocking this.

And now for the reason I am writing in the first place.... I never thought of masturbation as sex -- actual sex -- before. In my mind I was so "good" for giving sex up years ago. I always counted masturbation as a lesser sin, and certainly not adultery or sex. But it is. It is sex. Sex with myself. Oh, God, I confess. Help me in my weakness.

For those of you who are not convinced that masturbation is a sin, read it again. Every word in this article has happened to me. Thank you for addressing this issue! It gave me real hope to hear some of the men who are ex-masturbators. If they can do it, I should be able to as well.


David Morales
sO tRUE
written by David Morales, May 07, 2009
Hey man this is such a good topic and man just the way u put it, its just awesome man. God bLESS smilies/grin.gif
Damon McLemore
WOW
written by Damon McLemore, April 30, 2009
This is a good one. I'm enjoying the Christian converstation lets just keep it healthy. 1 GOD
'ey Steve!
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written by 'ey Steve!, April 28, 2009
First of all I don't think I need to get a t-shirt to say I'm an ex-masturbator.

This was a good read. I agree that masturbation is wrong. I agree that the Bible doesn't outrightly condemn it, even though that part Jesus says about adultery hints at it. My take on it is that masturbation is a selfish act that, whether they admit it or not, men are ashamed of doing. Also it's extremely rare to actually masturbate without thinking lustful thoughts so therefore you're already going down that wrong road doing it in the first place.

Speaking as an ex-masturbator I know it's hard to quit and it's something you have to take a day at a time, but it can be done. I also know that the Holy Spirit convicted me of it, which was the main reason why I stopped in the first place. How is it in any way beneficial to our walk with God? It's not! So we shouldn't do it. Period.
Tiera
Where is your heart?
written by Tiera, April 28, 2009
I'm thankful to the author of this article. After reading the comments, I must be prayerful for those of you that do not understand the spiritual ramifications of sexual immorality more specifically where masturbation is concerned.

I have to ask each of you this question:

Where is your heart?

In the comments to the article, all types of rationals were presented even down to questioning the validity of the scriptures. In stead of responding to each point, I'd rather address the heart issue that is at stake here.

Romans 2:14-16
14 Even Gentiles, who do not have God’s written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. 15 They demonstrate that God’s law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. 16 And this is the message I proclaim—that the day is coming when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge everyone’s secret life.

This scripture says it all. At the core of our being, we know what is right. Many call it our conscience. In this sex centered age, our consciences are even further away from us. God judges the hearts (motives, intentions) of man. The things that are done it darkness will come to light. The bible tells us in Matthew that we are love the Lord our God will all our heart, mind, soul, and strength. So here are my questions to you:

When you masturbate, are you loving God will all your heart, mind, soul, and strength?
How do you feel after you masturbate? It is pleasure and shame?
What situations surround you when you masturbate? Does masturbation make you feel like you are in the light or in the dark?

We are called to walk in the light as Christ is in the light.

Just say the word masturbation. Doesn't sound exactly like what it is?

For the person that said they have sexual dreams, I say that you can control your dreams through prayer. Pray for your dreams and your thought life. The bible says to cast down imaginations in 2 Cor 10:4-6.

As believers, we have been set free from sin. It is important to dig deeper into things that immediately offend us. Are you more willing to masturbate than to serve God if he is calling you to lay masturbation down?

Try not masturbating for a period of time. One of the fruits of the spirit is self-control (Gal. 5:22-23). If you are uncontrolled in an area, it is not surrendered to the Lordship of Christ. Challenge your self believer! You can do all things through Christ you strengthens you in your inner man!

Be blessed. I love you all!
DJ Triple Threat
what does scripture say about this
written by DJ Triple Threat, April 01, 2009
Matthew says in 5:27-30: 27"You have heard that it was said, 'Do not commit adultery.'[e] 28But I tell you that anyone who looks at a woman lustfully has already committed adultery with her in his heart. 29If your right eye causes you to sin, gouge it out and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to be thrown into hell. 30And if your right hand causes you to sin, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

Christ explains both the part about lusting with the eye and self pleasure. Also in Galatians 5:16-25 Paul commands us to live by the spirit and goes on by giving the fruit of the spirit which must work in tandem, not separately as some teach. It is one fruit with these nine vitamins so speak, called vitamins "love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control."
You see that last one, "self-control." You save the best for last, because it is crucial in our Christian lives not succumb to the desires of the flesh that are contrary to God's standard. As Paul says in Romans 8, do we go on sinning so that grace abounds all the more? No! Don't take advantage of grace or take God for granted because He still has to correct you for such matters as this.
Masturbation is not a gift from God as someone posted earlier but rather is self-indulgency which is a sin before God. Along with that masturbation is a protect of disobedience linked to selfishness, loneliness, addiction, etc.
For those like myself who have been there, done that, and still fight daily not to fall by picking up there cross and DENYING one's self for the sake of Christ, keep doing it. But for those who take scripture, which the highest authority for Christian, out of context to justify their case of the can't help its, I'm sorry but masturbation is not cool.
I can sympathize with y'all cuz I have been there but I repented before the Lord and dare not justify. You might as well jsutify sleeping with the one your dating by saying "I'm gonna marry them anyway!" Sorry but that does fly with God.
Keys to being free are:

1.) Staying in God's presence via prayer, fasting, the Word of God, and worship
2.) Accountability with God first, someone who you can trust i.e. a friend of the same sex second, and thirdly yourslef.
3.) Be honest where you are at and seek the help you need but never justify.

I say all this to correct in love, to encourage, and bring what scriptures says to the table. If there are debates with this post, holla at me.

Peace
C.R.U.N.K. Apostle V
The shirts cause lust.
written by C.R.U.N.K. Apostle V, March 20, 2009
I honestly think that the shirts themselves cause lust. A shirt with EX-MASTURBATOR plastered across them raises sexual thoughts in other people. THe bible says do nothing to make thy brother stumble. And if I am wearing a shirt that says that, it is letting everyone know that I used to do that and sparks thoughts and images in others minds. In other words If someone just saw me walking down the street, its like hey there is a girl but If i am proclaiming i used to masturbate that is going to draw attention to the fact that I used to do in and the opposite sex even some of the same sex will start to visualize it. Make sense?
mike
shoulda proof read, lol
written by mike, March 20, 2009
I meant to say "a lack of masturabation does NOT wreak havok on our human development, lust does" "see below" my bad
mike
2 more cents
written by mike, March 20, 2009
ok i'll try and word this decently for sure.
I think this is the bottom line...... speaking as a man.

Masturbation isnt a sin, ejaculation isnt a sin, waking up with a (you know what) isnt a sin. BUT ....
remember jesus says that whoever even looks at a woman lustfully has committed adultery. "well, you could probably get away with it a time or two if your lucky while thinking about tractors or waffles" see where this is going. As a guy who still struggles with it from time to time, i always am brought to repentance and am always eager for the next victory, because there certainly has been victories! All glory goes to God, cause without him, quite frankly ... the internet can be a scary place yo. Not to mention staying away from it, does wreak havock on us as far as human development. Lust was the thing that did that. Having no REAL respect for women or myself. As a matter of fact the ONLY girl that i know i ever loved ... i mean really really loved deep down in my soul was a virgin. Also a christian, she tried to kiss me a bunch of times and i wouldnt dare! I loved her so differently than anyone i had ever loved before, and after too. So i know for a fact that God has got great great things in store for those who seek Him with ALL THERE HEARTS!! Man! I need a spell check, LOL
Didymus
It's wroong whether you like it or not!
written by Didymus, March 20, 2009
m**********n is wrong and any Christian who says otherwise is not operating out of the wisdom of the Spirit! Just because you have a desire, does not mean you have to act it out(with a partner or by yourself)! That's the same excuse homosexuals use! It aint gonna fly in the light of truth! I myself have been through many tempting situations! I was married for 5 years and that after having more than 50 sexual partners before my marriage, so I'm used to getting my sexual needs met! For the last two years, since my divorce, I've been celebate and have not once masturbated! If I can do it, so can anyonelse, especially another Christian, for HE is not a respector of persons! The same Spirit that keeps me is the same One who can keep you if you alow Him!

As far as the dreams go, you can not involve yourself with lustful thoughts during the day all you want and still have nightmares of sexual acts! Just wake up praising Him knowing that it was just a dream and that's the only way the enemy can attempt to "try" and discredit you! Keep the faith and trust in His power! He will not allow any temtation stronger than we can withstand! Yahweh bless!!!
Steve
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written by Steve, March 20, 2009
I really enjoyed this, great read
ryan m
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written by ryan m, March 19, 2009
"Live by the Spirit and you will not satisfy the desires of the flesh" we all say this part of the scripture but do we really do it? Or have we become passive."For i have been crucified with Christ its no longer i that lives but Christ in me, the hope of glory" powerful part of scripture since Christ lives within us would He and sin be one?Can light and darkness be one? Never!! There is no color gray in this situation its either you are white or black, righteous or sinful Masterabation is wrong and thats the naked truth like it or not,This is War its a fight for yo own soul,lest you be turned into a mere loaf of bread Proverbs 6v25-29
Zee
Marian
written by Zee, March 18, 2009
Your night dreams are affected by your day dreams (thought life). The things you dwell on get into your spirit. Be watchful over what you allow yourself to think about. Battlefield of the mind.
Marian
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written by Marian, March 18, 2009
If an orgasm is sex, and sex with oneself is wrong, what happens if I have a dirty dream?
I don't know how to control my dreams smilies/sad.gif
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Zee
concerning the removal of your testicals
written by Zee, February 05, 2009
Having your testicles removed doesn't stop lust. You don''t solve spiritual problems with physical solutions. It's the other way around.

James 1:14-15 says, "But every man is tempted, when he is drawn away of his own lust, and enticed. Then when lust hath conceived, it bringeth forth sin: and sin, when it is finished, bringeth forth death."

Lust begins with the mind - your thought life. It then progresses to the heart (your spirit). And then it is manifested outwardly through your words and actions. "As a man thinketh, in his heart so is he." "From the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh."

What you all must realize is that the problem and battle you are facing is internal and spiritual first. You MUST deal with it at the root. Otherwise, you will continue to struggle with your flesh.

Furthermore, women don't have testicles. So the lust/masturbation argument isn't based upon gender. Again, it is a spiritual issue.
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Chris Thrasher
pps
written by Chris Thrasher, February 05, 2009
oof.. really should proof read. haha. Anyhow originally i misworded myself on the whole "idea of reason". My mistake. Basically what i mean it the bible HAS been slightly altered since originally written. So what was getting at was theres even a possibility that the verse regarding masturbation could have been altered or added later on.

Im interested in how you respond to this zee and i hope you do.
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Manny
Honestly
written by Manny, February 05, 2009
this article is absurd and bordering on the verge of criminal. When we hit a certain age especially in the male biology the urge for sex is one of the largest driving forces in our brains because of every species need to successfully reproduce thus having our genes pass to an other generation. On a biological level this is basically the ultimate goal of life. Obviously in the world we live in, promiscuous sex is not only frowned upon by many theological cultures but a hazard to ones health in the face of many sexually transmitted diseases. So abstinence until marriage is an easy safety measure to prevent the spread of these fatal diseases. Masturbation is a tool to suppress these urges and is used to help with a variety of mental illnesses such as depression and anxiety. To not just control this impulse, which like any form of pleasure should be controlled, but to completely subjugate our sexual desires is sheer insanity. This article states that the act of masturbation is completely unnatural and we should be ashamed of engaging in it. This shame is not brought about by our own moral spectrum but by the religious fear of angering some omnipotent being who watches and tallies every single transgression against some law that was prophesied by people who lived thousands of years ago. Please whether we admit it or not we are sexual beings and to ignore this fact until the day of your wedding will be harmful to your own personal development as a human being.
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Karla
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written by Karla, February 05, 2009
It wasn't very long ago in human history that people got married around the same time they would be discovering masturbation. We now delay marriage to the point that we've spent at least 10 years with those sexual urges! I'm not saying we should go back to marrying as adolescents. And since we can't delay the onset of puberty (not without hormone injections I guess), we find ways to adapt.

I think masturbation is a gift from God. No, it's not the ideal expression of sexuality. But we as believers (and non-believers feel this too, though they don't recognize what it is) live our lives in a state of perpetual desire, of longing for our true home in the presence of God. We can't have that in this life, but we have glimpses here and there--the love between people, the beauty of creation, the joy of music, for example. Enjoying these things is good even though they pale in comparison to the bliss of reuniting with our creator. In a similar way, the imperfect pleasure derived from masturbation is a glimpse of a fuller love, a small tidbit to comfort us while we wait for what we truly need. I thank God for, in his mercy, giving us masturbation to ease our weariness and to point us to the truer love of marriage, which in itself is an imperfect love that points to the perfect love of Christ for the church.

For these reasons, I am a believer who does not feel shame when I masturbate.

EDIT BY ADMIN: comment about orgasms deleted.
Chris Thrasher
You people are out of your minds.
written by Chris Thrasher, February 04, 2009
You cant be reasoned with on a logical level.


Masturbation (stop calling it masterbation, you look like a poorly schooled moron.) has kept me from sleeping around because i can exhibit more self control in telling the girl whos trying to tempt me, that im not interested. Furthermore, im not having premarital sex.

The thing is i am christian and i try to live my life thinking of jesus at least once a day. Yeah i slip time and again. Who doesnt. But this is just too much.

God should not have made us with sexual desires if he knew we were going to screw it up.

I have some "warped" fetishes as well. Logic does not mix well with religion. But you know what i choose this faith because i do believe god has good things in store for us. But some of you need to stop taking it upon yourself to throw in other factors cause you believe it is right.

Your cite a couple of versus to back your claim and thats it. I really dont see how in the hell pleasuring myself can be abusive. Cutting my arm open on purpose is abusing myself. I know not everything in the bible is literal and is usually translated as a spiritual thing. But some of you people cross the line. No i am not the best christian...and for the love of god which i cherish and im sure you people do too, do not tell me that im "asleep" or any of that garbage.


Thats damn near cult speak. If you are a chronic masturbator and want to stop then some help may be in order which is fine. The only harm i see in masturbation from a spiritual standpoint is it causes me to think of lustful thoughts which is against god. That i do agree with.
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